NS33 - What's this for ?

Joe -

Whoa … whoa. I meant that the FINAL thing that I did (after lowering the front of the boom) was to, indeedy-do, use the topping lift to lower the back of the boom.

But … yeh, I could have been a tad clearer.

Ernie A. in Toronto

roger that, Ernie.

Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA

4:1 is way more than what is required for a cunningham. The current sail on La Reina has a luff that is exactly the max allowed under the INA Racing rules. In down wind and in light air up wind it is fine, but while beating into 15 plus knots of apparent wind scallops start to develop in the luff. The sail is at maximum hoist so hardening up on the halyard does not take the scallops out. Because of that I added a cunningham. I know it is only on a 26 but I can easily put enough tension on it to take the scallops out of the luff. It is a 2:1 purchase using a low friction ring.

The block and tackle can be used for hoisting items such as outboards or taking someone up the mast. I use the same rig for a preventer when La Reina is at rest. It is overkill for that use as a preventer, however I also use it as part of a man overboard recovery system in conjenction with two wire strops around the boom. If you go to the INA website, sign in and look under “Tips” you can find an article for A MOB Rescue Tackle that shows the system.

Mark Powers

Thanks, Mark.

Safety is important, so I feel ok posting the document here in the discussion group.

I still encourage folks to look at the website. Lotsa good stuff there.

– Bob
Me Gusta
Nonsuch e26U #233

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Nonsuch MOB Rescue Tackle 2010.pdf (2.68 MB)

Thanks for posting that well documented and clear presentation. I saved it to my boat stuff in Books. My memory is still trying to grasp the rig that slides into the two holes in the casting at the aft end of the wishbone boom and extends the aft reach for a vertical hoist. It involved a board and a couple of pipes and a shackle to hook the tackle.

Brian Cayer
Spirit~Wind
30U 419
Deep River, CT

Thanks Mark, I’ll continue to sort through the odds and ends on Soave and I’ll bet I’ll find the wire strops also.

Rob Cohen
s/v SOAVE
NS33 #009
Westport, CT

Hi,

Years ago I was reading a book on sailing that recommended one of these for every sail boat. They called it a “Handy Billy” and could be used for many many things including taking the load off a line to clear an override in a winch.

Rob Powers
Respite 26C #50
Sidney BC

I had considered something like this to hang from the end of the boom to use as a crane to get heavy or awkward gear on to the boat.

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Looks like a boom vang.
Chuck Mitchell
NS 33
S/V Chill
Cape Cod
used to live in Westport

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I agree. It looks like a boom vang. You need the third (or fourth) cringle at the bottom of the luff of course (not Chris). I attach mine to the U bolt just aft of the mast where the luff reef lines are tied. I use it as a mini reef and it works very well. Sail shape is still good even without any matching leach line. Yours is a damn nice looking piece of gear.

Fair Winds,
Dave King
N22 Suey, Alameda

Wouldn’t that make it more of a cunningham than a boom vang? A vang attachs to the boom, usually 40% or so of the way aft of mast.

I have a similar one of those and I use it, all of the time.

Think mine is of lighter tackle but very similar with a jam cleat. No one is allowed on deck or cabin top unless the wishbone is secure with that rig, along with the mainsheet, that prevents wishbone motion.

I found it on the boat when I bought it and simply found a quick and easy method to secure and release the wishbone. Works like a champ.

I think it has a multitude of potential uses and worth having on the boat. In my case, it has a positive, safety use and at the same time I found a place to store it.

I can think of, a number, potential applications for using this rig and think it good business just to have around. Lifting a netful of beer onto the boat could be another good use.

Anyways, those are my thoughts and remember that I am entitled to my very own ridiculous opinion.

Cheers,

Butch Garren

Nonsuch 30 #196 “Whiskers II”

SIYC Slip 12

Solomons, MD

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Butch,
Could you expand on that. You use it all the time, but how? Where is it attached? Are you using it as a preventer?

Tim in STL
White O’morn NS e26U #216
Harbor Point Yacht Club
West Alton, MO

Hi Tim,

Could not think of the word before. In coordination with a taught mainsheet, it is a “preventer”. The picture to the left shows conection to an eye on the port stern and to the right the connection to boom end. I simply unjam the line and release snap shackle at boom end. I then lower the rig to the deck. It’s not going to go anywhere. Upon sail drop, with mainsheet taught I simply lift rig up and snap back onto the wishbone end. Pull line to jam.

As we all know, the wishbone is heavy and if not secured it’ll go wherever it wants to even with a taught mainsheet. I was concerned about someone getting knocked overboard and quickly grabbed the rig which I did know it’s purpose and I gave it one. I like it so well I’ve left it there and no one is allowed deck top or cabin top without the preventer rig and mainsheet securing the boom. I was encouraged to do this because of a calm day in my slip with the wishbone being held only by a taught mainsheet tha a mild wake got the boom moving around make a crew member lose balance a little. I became concerned.

May be over-kill but it makes me comfortable knowing that crew and guests are safe. BTW, I follow my own rules.

The rig is always there to be removed to be used for something else if need be.

Cheers,

Butch

Butch Garren

Nonsuch 30 #196 “Whiskers II”

SIYC Slip 12

Solomons, MD

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Sorry, I meant to say Cunningham, or perhaps flattener.
Dave