Joe,
I’m planning to ditch an old Paloma too. Can you provide the make and model of the engine/110v unit you’re referring to and perhaps a photo of where and how it’s installed.
Thanks.
Mike Hoff
s/v Evelyn May NS 26C 112
Lake Tashmoo, Martha’s Vineyard MA
Mike, I like the idea as well. The question would be where would we fit it on the 26c.
Joe
NS26C #156
SASSAFRAS RIVER,MD
The biggest problem is finding room in a 26. Here is a photo of my installation which is a Force 10 -
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
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After seeing Joe V's pics, I found this heater and with the measurements
checked out the space in my 26. In my boat there is a space in the port
laz above my starter battery. It appears that the heater with both the
exchanger fittings and service fitting on the front will fit. See pics
below. Also on my W21 the heat exchanger portals are on the back which is
a small convenience. Starter battery could be moved to stbd next to my
single house batt for balance.
Cursory look indicated service lines could be run thru bulkhead and run
parallel to fuel tank to get into the bilge for reconnection. I also just
replaced the deck drain hose which you might want to do prior to hiding it
with the heater.
Joe
NS26C #156
SEA HORSE
If you go to the Nonsuch photo gallery in the fourth row of the 26C you will find Catbert. In the photo collection is a photo of a hot water heater installed in the starboard locker at the back. Because the tank was above the engine a header/overflow tank was necessary. You can just make that out in the photo. Here is the link, I hope. https://pbase.com/nonsuch/image/76502150
Mark Powers
La Reina 26C
Vancouver, B.C.
Thanks for the pic. my 1985 W21 has an aux tank like in the pic, so I guess I’m good to go. I was going to have all the 35 yr old hoses replaced, so this job may just be another piece of the puzzle.
I’m giving my 2 nephews a list for Christmas of everything I have done to their inheritance since I bought her…damn “Your Inheritance” would have been a great name for the boat.
Joe
NS26C #156
SEA HORSE
Hi
Has anyone tried the portable Gaslands 1.32 GMP, 5 litre, 34,000 BTU compact, tankless, hot water heater with the D cell battery ignition, vented unit. The size is 13" x 20 " and for our boats it seem like a perfect replacement for an old Palarmo hwh at approx. $200.00 CD. I am really interested to try one at that price. It looks like a plug and play solution given we really only need it for washing dishes and the odd shower.
Robert Crothers
N S Coaster, Nonsuch 30 Ultra #237
KYC, Kingston Ontario
rcrothers6@hotmail.com
Robert - The Excel costs a little more but it fits exactly in the same spot as the Palermo. No new screws needed, the water and gas connections fit exactly. It’s worth the extra $100 just for that.
NS30U 253 “Proud Mary”
I replaced the original Palermo with an Excel 2-3 years ago. Love it. Wish I had done it years earlier.
Michael Passero
Born To Run, NS 33, #42
Michael,
The thing I like about it is the choice of flexible connectors to where the old water heater once sat. Is that the space forward of the salon table bed in your 33?
Don’t forget to hook up the chimney.
Brian
Spirit~Wind
N30U 419
Deep River, CT
Brian,
It’s ventless, so the chimney is not required and it would take some retrofitting to get that done. It only fires up on demand for hot water so if there is any CO, it’s not being produced for a long duration. The location is forward of the salon table in a dedicated locker.
Michael Passero
Born To Run NS33
Michael,
Thats good to hear. I once met a lady that wanted to somehow fit a wood stove in that space. That’s how old school I am.
Brian
Spirit~Wind
Considering replacing my dead Paloma water heater. What model number Excel did you install, and does it vent upward like the old one?
Barry Connell
Nocturne (N36)
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You may want to consider a more conventional engine/110 VAC heater. It’s always there - nothing to turn on or off, unless you’re at the dock and no propane to worry about etc, etc it’s just always there ready for you. If you want some details, email me.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Michael,
It is called a ventless heater but that is when it is used in a large space. Most if not all surveyors and therefore insurance companies will require a vent.The Excel has an oxygen depletion sensor. Without a vent the sensor may read a low oxygen level and shut the heater off.
Mark Powers
Mark,
I’ve never had a problem and I keep a CO detector on the boat. Unless you have someone who likes long, luxurious showers, it is never fired up for very long and, of course, the boat is very well ventilated. The on-demand is very efficient; it produces hot water almost instantly. I have to say I’ve been very satisfied with it.
Born To Run, #42
The only way my surveyor would approve the heater was it it was vented outside the boat and I had a CO detector installed. He was happy about the oxygen depletion sensor. I don’t have a good Charlie Noble so if the wind is blowing a gust will momentarily blow the exhaust back Down the stack and the oxygen depletion sensor shuts the heater off. The options I have considered are removing the heater , figuring out how to install a fan to force the Exhaust out the stack or changing the above deck arrangements so I can fit a proper C.N.
Mark Powers
Out of curiosity I tried my Excel out without an exhaust shroud when I was installing it. In the over sink cabinet (30U) it immediately fogged the sliding doors and produced a lot of heat. I can’t imagine running it in that area anyway unvented. I made a sheet metal shroud to adapt it to the original Paloma CN and have never had any trouble with heat or humidity since. I do have a CO detector just above that cabinet and it has never been set off by the heater.