Mast climbing advice for 26 owners?

I’d appreciate comments on advisability and procedures from anyone with a 26 who’s got experience going to the masthead while the boat’s at the dock, as opposed to waiting until the mast is pulled to work on it while it’s horizontal at the yard.

I’ve done mastwork on several previous boats (everyone should own the ATN Topclimber gear).

HOWEVER, as I gaze up at an unstayed, tapered mast 55’ above the waterline at the very bow of the boat, and gaze down at a scale telling me that, yes, Bob, you really do weigh over 200 lbs, I find myself thinking that maybe – just maybe – this is not something to do without first consulting some experts.

So, any advice out there?

– Bob
Solar Wind
Nonsuch 26C, #143

Bob,

I’ve done it a variety of times in the past, and I weigh over 200 lbs. too.

I rigged a Black Diamond climbing harness with ascenders, and used that, which is essentially the same method as using an ATN topclimber. So, since you’ve used a topclimber, it sounds like, I won’t belabor the point of how you climb up – you already know.

I never had any problem at all with swaying, or any other kind of instability. It feels as solid as a rock up there, especially since you can hug the mast and wrap your legs around it too, once you get up near the top, which is 49’ above the waterline, by the way. Not having to negotiate spreaders, shrouds and stays is a definite plus! I’ve worked on the mast joint in some detail over the years, so I have every confidence in the solidity of that.

Don’t forget to take a camera up with you!

Best of luck,

Ed Cook

Chat-eau

N26c, #173

Middle River, MD

Teds is probably right , but I would suggest better safe than sorry. Bring the boat alongside and get a boom truck. No stress no worry.

Lloyd Robbins

Given a choice working on the mast on the ground makes more sense. Takes a bold soul to climb a mast IMHO. And as the saying goes, old pilots, bold pilots… no old bold pilots.

Make sure to have two lines attached to two separate points on each end.

If I may add to that please…two new lines. We were far too close to a fatal mast accident earlier this year. I wish I could never even hear of another one.

Peter Moodie,
Nonsuch 39U Catalyst 366,
Sidney/Winnipeg

Despite my flip tone in the previous note, these are important concerns and I appreciate you posting them. I’m strongly in favor of surviving my experiences intact.

In addition to redundant lines, one thing I’ve always done when mast climbing is to keep a friction loop around the mast that has to be manually adjusted to allow vertical motion. This slightly slows ascent and descent because every few feet requires an adjustment, but serves both keep me close to the mast and hopefully convert any falls into slow downward slides.

– Bob
Solar Wind
Nonsuch 26C, #143

Bob -

Dare I ask, what are you going to be tackling up top at the mast head ??

Ernie A. in Toronto

So your mast is taller than all orher 26’s?

On White O’morn, our 1986 NS36U there is only one halyard. There is a cheek block on the side of the mast for a flag hoist, but I would not trust it with my life. How are you guys able to use two halyards?

Bob -

I just watched the videos on the ATN Topclimber. This is a beautiful rig. the principle of the ascenders is used in all kinds of rated fall-arrest gear, in use everywhere. But still …

IF you don’t have some sort of strong safety halyard i.e 2nd halyard (something that i believe that could count on when working on these other boats th

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Bob -

I just watched the videos on the ATN Topclimber. It is a beautiful rig. The principle of the ascenders is used in all kinds of rated fall-arrest gear.

But still … IF you don’t have some sort of strong safety halyard i.e a 2nd halyard (something that I believe that you counted on when working on those other boats that had both a headsail and a mainsail), I would NEVER go up that mast. Granted, in mid-ocean, with your very existence depending on it, climbing the mast with NO safety halyard might be a must. In your case, once again, WITHOUT a safety halyard… I don’t think it’s a necessity.

With boating (or, in my previous life, production work in professional theatre… where a lot of crew work aloft at 150’ +), if it can happen.. sadly, one day, it will happen. We do enough risky stuff just sailing our boats (especially at our tender ages). I think it’s best to minimise risk and not to “live dangerously”.

I agree with Thor. Pull the mast and work on it on the ground.

Have a SAFE holiday season !!

Ernie A. in Toronto

Bob -

I just watched the videos on the ATN Topclimber. This is a beautiful rig. the principle of the ascenders is used in all kinds of rated fall-arrest gear, in use everywhere. But still …

IF you don’t have some sort of strong safety halyard i.e 2nd halyard (something that i believe that could count on when working on these other boats th

On White O’morn, our 1986 NS36U there is only one halyard. There is a cheek block on the side of the mast for a flag hoist, but I would not trust it with my life. How are you guys able to use two halyards?

Tim in STLch,

Bob,
Some of what I have to say has already been said by others or is information you already have but here goes anyway.

As the attached photo shows, I have been up the mast on a 26 foot Nonsuch. I do not consider myself an expert. One of the local riggers has also been up the mast and he did exceed the 200 pound mark.

I have a bosun’s chair and go up on the winch or with a 4:1 tackle. I weigh less then 200 pounds although by the time clothes, tools and chair are added I would be close to 200. My brother, Rob, who kindly ground the winch for me in an early climb, swears I weigh over 300 lbs. I now have a Winchrite electric winch handle and it will haul me up the mast. Much better then doing it manually. I must warn you that when someone steps off or on to a 26 footer, the top of the mast moves. If it is a big person you get big movement. If you look down at that point you will see dock, boat, water, boat, dock, water and so on. I have been up to the top of the boom hangers on a 30 with a carbon fibre mast. It was much more stable.

Thor and Peter are both right. Work on the mast when it is down if at all possible. If those fail and you don’t have a mast tower handy then take a number of precautions when you go up. I now belong to a sailing club that has a mast tower. I am sure the tower is safer but I find working from the chair easier for most tasks except working right at the top of the mast. When I am in the chair I have trouble getting high enough to work on the masthead instruments.

Wear a fall protection harness that is in top notch shape and is properly snugged up. Do not use the halyard shackles. Tie your own bowlines. Make sure the attachment point is high enough that you can’t invert. I tie one halyard to the chair with a long tail and then tie the tail to the fall protection harness. The second halyard ties to the harness at my back between the shoulder blades.

When I go up the mast, like you, I also use a friction loop around the mast. If things go wrong it will hold me to the mast and slow the descent. It should allow me to grab the mast and stop the descent. Again make sure it is attached high enough that you can’t invert on the way down.

If you use a bosun’s chair it should have safety straps so you can’t slide out of it.

You should have a second halyard. The cheek block on the side of the mast is not designed for big loads bust it is better then nothing for running a back up halyard. The screws appear to be 1/4" stainless. There are 4 of them. I believe but do not have full confirmation that the sheer strength on this four screws exceed 300 pounds by a considerable margin. Maybe one of the engineers in the group can answer that question.

In the photo I attached, there is no second halyard. I now have a messenger line through the cheek block so I can run a second halyard when I need to. The messenger line is a light weight nylon and is stretchy enough that it does not interfere with the movement of the boom.

Absolutely, carefully check your halyards to ensure they are in top notch condition before you put your life in the hands of those fibres.

Remember you can’t really check the mast head sheaves if you are hanging on the halyard and the mast on a Nonsuch should be taken down periodically so they can be fully inspected. Before you decide to make the climb, be absolutely certain that you can’t move that date for pulling the mast forward to the present and that the work you are planning can’t wait until the mast comes down.

Practical Sailor conducted a test on mast climbing systems some years ago. They had a warning about the ATN system. At least on the older style system if it was not correctly installed the bolts holding the grabbers together could back out as you climbed. You might like to check that article out if you have not already read it.

Mark Powers
La Reina 26C
Vancouver, B.C.

. . . near the beautiful Burrard Bridge