Hi there, does anyone have the measurements for the cradle lines for the Nonsuch 30 classic?
Thanks,
Dorothy Salsubury Cathartic Nonsuch 30 Toronto
They are listed in the owner’s manual.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Expanding on Joe’s post: If you don’t have a copy of the owners manual, copies are available to members of the International Nonsuch Association for free download from their website (Nonsuch.org). A list of the specs for all the lines on most of the boats was also part of the annual registry mailed to members.
(Full disclosure: I’m writing from my personal account, but I’m one of the INA’s volunteer managers.)
– Bob
Me Gusta
Nonsuch 26C #233
co-President, International Nonsuch Association
Hi Bob,
Thank you for your reply. I have checked the entire manual several times and am feeling stupid!
The Running Rigging page specifies the total length of cradle line but not the individual lengths, am I missing something?
Dorothy Salusbury
Cathartic Nonsuch 30 Toronto
This is from page 14 of my manual -
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
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[/details]Hi Bob,
Thank you for your reply. I have checked the entire manual several times and am feeling stupid!
The Running Rigging page specifies the total length of cradle line but not the individual lengths, am I missing something?
Dorothy Salusbury
Cathartic Nonsuch 30 Toronto
I’m new at all of this but I have seen the cradle lines as one piece or two pieces with clips (I don’t know what they are called but they are convenient) that hold the two sides together. My oat has the latter and there is a short side and a long side. the short side is cut at a convenient height to make reaching it easy. You certainly do not want them to be the same length.
Bill Mortensen
N30U #335
Summer Song
Noank, CT
Those hanger clips are termed “sister clips”, made in the U.K. and sold by West Marine.
Way to go.
Richard Lane NS26c #35 Swoose.
Port Townsend
Sister clips are great. It makes it much easier to remove your sail and in my case, I lengthen my cradle lines when I race to avoid interfering with sail shape.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Trivia: Interestingly enough, in French, these things translate into “clips de drapeau”, which makes a lot more sense than “sister clips”. At least that’s what it said on the boxes of clips I got (but did not yet use) for my hanger lines.
Dorothy - been travelling so not on email. On our 26, I got more line than expected to use; cut segments that would drape down longer than needed. When our mast goes up, the yard puts up the boom, and when it’s up, it’s up. On the first 4 or 5 lines, on port, near the bottom, I tied a bowline. On the starboard, I pull them under the sail, and through the loop of the bowline I tie with a clove hitch or something similar. On the tail end, it’s easy to bring the lines from port to starboard, so only the first 4 or 5 are tied with the bowline and hitch.
The goal this year was to put the sister clips (errr - clips de drapeau 
on approximately where the current bowlines are, but did not get around to it. The current arrangement made adjusting the lines for height really easy. Just FYI. Maybe next year? We’ll see.
I stressed about it until I realized that the line was inexpensive, so having a few longer tails cut off would not break the bank, and could be done at anchor, or dock, or… so no stress.
I hope this helps -
John Stewart NS26C 046 on the hard in Bath ON.
I forgot to add that sometime in the past, a member suggested using a length of material like a sail tie to have that part and not the line itself make contact with the sail to avoid leaving marks in the sailcover. I think it works very well and is much better then the thin line. Mine are about 1” wide and are 1’ to 3’ long (depending on where it is) with cringles on the ends.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Joe
~~~~~(\_ ~(\_ ~(\_~~~~~~~~~~I was about to mention what Joe just did - that webbing (or other material wider than just cord) would be easier on the sail and not cut into it. I totally agree with sister clips i.e les clips de drapeau and the idea of attaching the lines together, up on one side or the other, as opposed to under the sail.
I’ve attached a shot of the foot of my sail, reefed (of course …) and sitting on lengths of webbing. I simply had Ron Fernandes (at Triton Sails in Mississauga) make up 4 short lengths of 1" webbing with a grommet at each end. The sail sits in the webbing, not the actual cord.
You may be able to spot the little clips that hold the cradle lines to the boom. Like the boom, they are made of aluminum and, so far, have done fine for 9 years.
Ernie A. in Toronto
That’s a very nice and inexpensive upgrade, Ernie and Joe.
– Bob
Me Gusta
Nonsuch 26U #233
I use Sister Clips in many places on my sail cover not just for the hanger lines. Used them recently to secure the cover for my on deck generator. Bought them on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3jT1dZL
Mike
BIANKA
1986 30U
Long Island