Hi
Should not need adjustment once set where you want them.
Split them asymmetrically so junction is at sail cover plus one foot.
Then can use a ring to tie them as desired or just tie them, bowline to
bowline or with sheet bend.
Mine are done up with sister hooks (Brummel hooks).
Most advantageous when bending on sail or when removing sail.
May need a ladder to make them longer before splitting.
Al
Barbcat NS 30C #170
Allen is totally right about the sister clips. It’s tricky getting the position for each clip so start with extra line for both sides. I put mine higher than Allen to the port side. It is a great improvement, and cheap and easy to do. Will try to send a picture later.
Fred Rachwitz
Nonsuch 30 U 445
Harbor Springs, MI USA
Northern Lake Michigan
Here is a photo showing the cradle lines with sister clips. They are difficult to spot; zoom in if you can.The forward one has trees in the background so is easiest to locate. They all have a tail about 1 ft hanging by them. Others are at the same height, about eye level from the deck. Hope this helps.
Fred Rachwitz
Nonsuch 30 U 445
Harbor Springs, MI USA
Northern Lake Michigan
I agree with Allen. Don’t see any reason to change adjustment and sister hooks are great!
Joe Valinoti
NS30U
Oriental, NC
Thanks everybody for taking the time to reply. Sometimes something like this seems so simple I’m embarrassed to post the question to the forum, but I”m glad I did.
I learned something and again demonstrated how friendly Nonsuchers are.
John E. Phillips
Whalewind NS30c #16
Currently at Loyalist Cove Marina
Bath, Ontario
Somewhat related …
I am surprised to see that few of us run each cradle line through a few feet of thin clear plastic tubing such that the sail (or sail cover, actually) sits on the TUBING and not on thin, potentially damaging cord (the cord could cut into the cover or, worse, the actual sail).
By the same token, only a few of us have worked out the system such that the sail sits on WEBBING, far more “comfy” to the sail than cordage.
I use plastic tubing and replace it, for a few bucks, every few years. It cushions the sail.
Cheers
Ernie A. in Toronto
I’m off to buy plastic tubing.
One caveat to the plastic tubing, be sure to drill a hole in the bottom of the tube, roughly the middle of the total length, to allow water to drain out because the tubing will collect water and unless you’re there to drain it out the cordage will sit in water. When/if you replace your sail cover with a top zipper the webbing will/can be the supporting material… “been there, done that”.
Regards,
Dick (& Shirley) Darrow
Cativa, NS30U #496
Sodus Bay, NY USA
Although I agree with the tubing/webbing idea theoretically,
I have used the smallest white cord for more than seven years,
and it appeared that the previous owner did also, and yet
I cannot find ANY hint of a mark left on either bag or sail.
In theory I agree, but cannot find any hint of evidence.
I share Dick’s point about the water in the tubing – I did NOT drain as he suggests, and my cradle lines turned a lovely shade of green. Just sayin…
Bill Baxter
Persistence NS30 #507
Penetang, ON
I use webbing, but forgot to mention it.
Joe Valinoti NS30U iL Gatto
Oriental, NC
Before making the small adjustments, are the cradle line lengths mentioned in any of the original Nonsuch documentation.
In other words, I would like to install new cradle lines in order to bend on the sail, then make the final adjustments.
John E. Phillips
Somewhat related …
I am surprised to see that few of us run each cradle line through a few feet of thin clear plastic tubing such that the sail (or sail cover, actually) sits on the TUBING and not on thin, potentially damaging cord (the cord could cut into the cover or, worse, the actual sail).
By the same token, only a few of us have worked out the system such that the sail sits on WEBBING, far more “comfy” to the sail than cordage.
I use plastic tubing and replace it, for a few bucks, every few years. It cushions the sail.
Cheers
Ernie A. in Toronto
Lengths are listed in your Nonsuch manual. Note, however, that some 30s have 7 cradle lines and some have only 5. ( not sure why).
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD
I have hull number 16, a 30 classic. I haven’t found anything in my manual.
I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could share the information from your manual if it list the cradle line lengths.
Thank you.
John E. Phillips
Lengths are listed in your Nonsuch manual. Note, however, that some 30s have 7 cradle lines and some have only 5. ( not sure why).
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD
Good afternoon
My solution was to buy and use one length of line approximately 90 feet long. I start by tying it off on one of the eye straps on the forward part of the boom and work it across and back and forth down the boom.
With the bitter end tied to the last eye strap at end of the boom, I can reach it and then I am able to adjust the position/depth of each of cradle(s) loops by loosening or tightening the line. I had plastic hose when I first bought the bought but did not appreciate their value until I saw the while lines left from the line on my dark blue sunbrella sail cover.
David
"Spray"1981 30C #93
Westport Point and South Dartmouth, MA.
I can look at my manual tonight and let you know if someone does not respond before then. Do you know how many cradle lines you have?
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD
As far as the clear plastic hose goes, I found it was just as cheap to buy a large roll (I think it was 150 feet) on EBay as it would have been to buy the exact amount I needed. Now I have a lifetime supply.
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville MD
Great idea, this sounds like it will work.
Thanks everybody for your help.
I too shifted over to webbing as it is strong and inexpensive. They terminate on one side with “Sister Clips” for easy removal.
Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
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