Well done, Peter!
Of course, at my age, it goes a lot slower than in your GoPro video, but still, good job! 
I think the consensus is for me to stow it below, so that’s the plan – at the foot of the companionway, LIFO, just enough room for someone to wiggle around and give it a boost!
Thanks,
Bill Baxter
Persistence NS30 #507
Penetang, ON.
Nice video, Peter. However, you forgot to mention checking the lawn for landmines first.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Thank you Ernie! Happy to hear that it is of some use.
This is what happens when you have too many Red Bulls…
Not light at all - weighs in at approx. 60-65 lbs… I did go back through all of my records - the sail was made in the Spring of 2001, but I am not able to locate the original/initial correspondence stating the fabric/weight (just a letter confirming from the sailloft that they have all they need to begin producing the new sail) . My parents still owned the boat at that time. I bought the boat from them in 2004.
The cloth feels normal weight to me, not unusually light/thin at all. Still has a good amount of body to it after 20 seasons! I have discussed with Doyle City Island, NY about replacing it and they have told me there seems to still be some good life in it, so no need to do it… yet. I really think it just may be the speed of the video.
Best regards,
Peter
Grabow
S/V CAKE WALK III
1987 30 Ultra 430
Jersey City, NJ
Thank you Bill!
Real time was probably about 15 or 20 minutes (getting it off the boat takes just about as long!). It’s not a race unless a storm, or snow, is approaching!
Wherever you can make it fit sounds good! There were a few seasons when I had the original stowed in the forward locker… ‘just in case I had an emergency’… I finally got past that paranoia and stowed the original in a closet at home… yeah… took up too much space in my ever shrinking apartments, so I finally donated it to one of those sail-bag making places and got a nice duffle bag and a bucket bag from my original sail.
Good Luck!
Peter
Grabow
S/V CAKE WALK III
1987 30 Ultra 430
Jersey City, NJ
On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 9:41:29 PM UTC-4, Bill Baxter, Persistence, NS30 #507, Penetang, ON wrote:
Many thanks Joe!
Yeah - the geese have no qualms about laying landmines (assuming (dangerous I know!) that is what you mean by “landmines”) all over that stretch of grass, especially in season… luckily, as it was November, I was able to find a large enough clear space to work the sail!
Best regards,
Peter
Grabow
S/V CAKE WALK III
1987 30 Ultra 430
Jersey City, NJ
Actually, Peter, I was thinking of dogs. Geese would be worse!
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Geese are far worse. They have become common in our town public areas especially around our marina and launch facilities. They are not at all cooperative and an unbelievable mess. It has all happened within just a few years time. No idea why.
Fred Rachwitz
Concerto
NS 30 U # 445
Harbor Springs, Michigan
Northern Lake Michigan
Hi Bill
If the sail was properly flaked before it was put in the bag Id say it would be easy to fit in the companionway below.
A properly flaked(folded) sail is the same weight of course but much easier to maneuver due to its smaller size.
Your problem may be getting the sail from the ground up to the cockpit.
I’ll be in Penetang Friday afternoon/Satuday Morning if you need a hand.
Tom
26C #28
Penetang
On Friday,3 July 2020 15:23:56 UTC-4, Bill Baxter, Persistence, NS30 #507, Penetang, ON wrote:
My wife and I folded and bagged the sail for our 30U for years and always had trouble fitting it into the bag. Last winter an experienced racer (who takes down his genny, folds and bags it every time he sails) stopped us mid-folding and made us start again, resulting in a so called “brick”. If I wanted, I could literally put it in the passenger seat of my Miata (but much prefer my wife to sit there). Folded properly, it is surprisingly small.
I too have used the sail cover as a “turtle” (another racer told me it is the term use for spinnaker launch bags), stuffing our main below deck for hurricanes. I figure if i am going to lose the boat in the hurricane, I will not need the sail . . . It is a bear to stuff below and to drag back up, but easier then taking it off the boat, folding it, and getting it home. Especially when you have other prep to do for the boat and house.
I would not recommend dropping your sail to the deck for the winter in its cover - you should be inspecting the sail in the off season to get the little problems taken care of before they are big problems.
I added shoulder straps to our sail bag so I can carry the sail by myself. A bit unwieldy (the sail sits too low on the body), but is effective for getting the sail up and down stairs by myself.
I recall having our sail weighed at a loft once - I recall it came in at 89#, not the 60ish Peter Grabow tossed out there. Peter - did you have your sail weighed?
Lloyd Herman
Rendezvous, 30U
Port Washington, NY
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:23:56 PM UTC-4, Bill Baxter, Persistence, NS30 #507, Penetang, ON wrote:
Very generous offer, Tom — I am in Penetang now and will load the boat tomorrow, along with the sail — my job is just to get it aboard 
Will be thinking of you sailors this summer.
Bill Baxter
Persistence NS30U
Penetang ON
Lloyd,
What was the folding advice you received to achieve such a compact result?
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville MD
Answering Jim C. - To “brick” the sail, we fold it in the normal manner of pulling and folding down to the foot, just much shorter - we made the first series of folds about 18" deep and kept it as flat as possible while folding it - that means you need to pay attention to the middle of the sail, flattening it out and pulling it tight. Once the first series of folds are done, we made the second set of folds from tack to clew, which is our preference, pushing it flat/sitting on it to keep it tight (do NOT ask your wife to sit on it to flatten it out . . . ). Put a couple of sail ties on it to keep it folded and into the sail bag - our bag is probably half filled when the sail is folded this way. I may make a smaller sail bag because it will actually be easier to handle if the bag fits better. Your results may differ with a newer sail.
I have shown this to a number of other sailors and they are always amazed at how little room their sail take when folded real tight.
We only have one sail to worry about. I suppose if you are a racer with a forepeak full of sails, how small you fold your sails becomes very important .
lloyd herman
Rendezvous, 30U
Port Washington, NY
On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 3:23:56 PM UTC-4, Bill Baxter, Persistence, NS30 #507, Penetang, ON wrote: