Has anyone tried to use either a Rocna or a Manson anchor on the stock
Nonsuch 30 bowsprit and anchor roller set up? If so, how did it work
out?
Reef early,
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Serenity II
Nonsuch U 30 479
Gulfport, FL
We have a Rocna 10 on our 26C. I have not used it much yet but it
seems to set much quicker than the 25# CQR. It really seems to hold
but I use the deck wash down hose to clear the mud it brings up.
It does not sit on the roller as well. The roll bar comes up against
the stainless anchor platform. However I am willing to put up with
it.
Rob Powers Respite 26C #50
I have a Rocna 15 on my Nonsuch 30 here in the UK and have been really
pleased with it.
It sets really quickly and always holds. You have to pull it onto the roller by
hand rather than use the windlass but sits there well enough once it’s on.
You can see a picture of it on the bowsprit roller here …
http://www.yachtforsaledevon.co.uk/on-deck/
(Scroll down to the bottom and click on the image for a full size photo.)
Bill
No Rival, 30C Hull #69
Salcombe, Devon, UK
I had a Rocna 15 on my 30. I really think it is nothing short of a miracle anchor in everything from mud to sand to hard rock! It fits the roller well but has to be manually pulled up the last few inches. I used a short line with a large snaphook to hold in in place. Hook clipped to trip line eye on the back of the “plow” then the line leads aft through the anchor shackle to one of the bow cleats.
It replaced a real CQR and both caught and held better.
Allen Ames
From what I hear all Rocna’s are not created equal. There was a period fairly recently when they were made in China. The steel was low grade resulting in the shanks bending. I think Rocna will replace any faulty production.
John Newell
Mascouche 26C 1
Toronto
How about the Nonsuch that gets wrecked on the rocks when it fails?
I have purchased a Spade anchor that is also in the group of Rocna's
and Mansons as good anchors. I went this route as I thought the roll-
bar on the Rocna/Manson was going to create problems with how the
anchor stored.
Launch is imenent and I have yet to anchor anywhere. My existing
anchor would not let me sleep a wink.
Does anyone else have one of these...#33 and a large chunk of lead in
the point...Search gooble for "spade anchor".
Any experiences or thoughts would be appreciated.
Jim Jones
Jim,
I just got back from a week in the Bahamas during which i was anchored out in 15 ft of water over a sandy bottom for two days and nights in conditions which varied but included many hours of winds blowing up to 35 kts for most of each night and in very rough waters to the extent that we maintained an anchor watch all night long. My #25 CQR with 50ft of chain and 50 ft of nylon held us solid throughout the ordeal.
I have great respect for the CQR, more than ever before.
Ed Strazzini
MANATEE, N30U #503
Deltaville, Va
Alan,
Would you happen to have a picture that you could send me of the rocna
set-up on your bowsprit? I'm happy to hear that it will fit the
existing bowspeit.
Thanks,
I would like to ‘bump’ this thread and ask the same question to see if there are updates and/or photos available. I am seriously considering a Rocna or competitor and have similar concerns about how it will work on the pulpit and roller. The photos I can locate are on other boats without the two-roller bowsprit I have on my 33. Has anyone tried any modifications?
Some responses note that the anchor has to be pulled in the last bit by hand – does it touch the pulpit? Will it self-launch?
I have been lurking on the list for a while and have benefited from much good information and advice, so thanks! But a search about Rocnas and Nonsuches didn’t turn up a lot.
Nick C
Catbird Nonsuch 33
Washington, NC
The Excel (Australia) also has a very
Good rating.
I have the same set up on my 33 as you have, and it fits, launches, and retrieves very well
Mark fagelman
Purchased my N30 a couple months ago and my Rocna 10 from my previous boat fit the bow roller but not attractively because of the roll bar (shank sticks up). I love that anchor and keep it in the cockpit locker for a stern/emergency/kedge anchor.
Boat came with a CQR and Bruce, but I’m so spoiled by the Rocna I didn’t want to go backwards, so took a chance on the Rocna Vulcan (see photo). Haven’t had a chance to use it but it’s a Rocna, fits the bow roller perfectly, and is a beautiful, well-made anchor.
Pictured is a Vulcan 15 which according to the sizing chart is oversized for the N30 (great for a N33), but it’s lighter than the CQR and proportionally looks great. I prefer a size or two up when it comes to anchors.
David Steele
Daisy, 1981 N30 Hull #88
Berkeley, CA
Here’s a view from the front, anchor looks like it was made for the bow roller of the nonsuch.
David,
Thanks for posting the photos. I've tried fitting a Manson Supreme, Rocna with roll bar, and a Mantus. None fit well on my 30U because the anchors tend to hit the anchor roller platform support/brace. The Mantus did the best of the 3. So I still have an original Bruce on the bow. I'd be curious to hear how your Vulcan works for you. Looks like it fits great on a Nonsuch.
Also, what's the line that runs through a block on the port side of your anchor platform? I'm assuming the line on the starboard is a halyard or spare halyard, but don't know what the port line is.
Best,
Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD
Jim, that’s another gift from a previous owner. It’s a halyard on a block forward of the mast, perhaps for a blooper or spare for main, but it’s a mystery to me. Any ideas?
Why would a nonsuch have a halyard mounted forward of the main where a spinnaker or jib might go?
I haven’t used it yet, but it looks good for lifting a dinghy onto the deck, or man overboard, or perhaps a bosun’s chair for going up the mast.
There has been discussion in the past how when these boats first got into the racing scene that owners were rigging bloopers. However, the PHRF rating change was such that it wasn’t worth it and the dynamics of flying one was complicated or hard on the crews.
Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
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However – flying a Blooper certainly stabilises any Nonsuch whilst running hard downwind with full main - result was to greatly reduce the rolling motion with potential jibe that one experiences in heavy wind and sea astern
Cedric
Single Malt 26C # 207
Chester Nova Scotia
Had you ever flown one, Cedric??
Joe Valinoti
S/V IL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
Joe
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Thanks for posting the photos and increasing my interest in the Vulcan anchor. It does look good on the roller, but the bottom-line question is how well does it work? I have watched the Rocna movie and read some postings but reviews are scarce. I really like what I have seen, though.
My boat also came with a CQR and Bruce, and a Danforth, and a Fortress. I stored the Danforth with the other one I have, disassembled the Fortress and stowed it aboard prepped with chain, and bought a bigger Bruce for hurricane season. My wife is wondering why I am shopping for another anchor…
Nick C
Catbird Nonsuch 33 #51
Washington, NC
There was also no increase in velocity, Nonsuches just don’t plain…
Cheers
Katmando