So no questions can be asked on the Facebook group and posts questioning that policy are deleted.. this is a sad day to own a Nonsuch.
Colle,
Replying as just another Nonsuch owner.
I value all the Nonsuch Resources… and I try to give volunteers that administer them the benefit of the doubt even when I disagree with their decisions.
Direct private conversation about a disagreement is a path has helped me understand the other perspective(s). When that fails I ask myself should I alter my course to keep harmony in the community or escalate the issue. I usually choose harmony over conflict if the only casualty is my ego.
Happy to talk privately and introduce you to some others that may want to privately hear your perspective with a goal of keeping our communities fun and supportive.
I value the contributions you have made to our community and hope you find and answer to your original question… actually kinda curious what it was.
Rob
SV Soave
Colle,
I’m not a Facebook user, so I have no information about what triggered your notice from the Nonsuch Facebook moderator.
However, as the moderator for the Nonsuch Discourse group, I’d like to clarify a couple of potential misunderstandings about how things are handled here.
Rudeness. Rudeness is not tolerated here, either. Rudeness is subjective. And not all rudeness is intentional. Sometimes things said with the best intentions don’t come across as well as intended. I admittedly start with my own sense of things because, honestly, what else can I do? I also try to ask questions like: “Would this post discourage others from participating?” and “Did other participants express objections?” But, ultimately, it’s a judgment call, The recipient of a notice may disagree. If I receive a polite and convincing explanation of why I made a bad call, I’ll apologize and fix it. If I receive a rude response, it’s unconvincing. If the explanation appears to lack empathy, it’s unconvincing. I try to do the best I can and be as fair as I can, but in the end, someone’s gotta make a final decision.
Marketing and solicitation. Not allowed here, either. The INA provides a place for it: the INA Marketplace on the website. So, no one is banned from letting others know they have something to offer. We just ask that they go to the designated place. The reason is to keep the services we provide from overlapping so much that members don’t know where to go for what.
Again, there’s a bit of subjectivity here in enforcing this. If someone is recommending a product or service that multiple members might need, I don’t consider it solicitation. If it’s clear that profit or other benefit goes to the person posting, then I do consider it marketing/solicitation. Again, if I get a convincing explanation of why I made a bad call, I apologize and retract. If not, as I said before, someone’s gotta make the decision.
Posting links. I don’t think your Facebook moderator was saying you can’t post links there. I’m pretty sure he was saying you just can’t post that particular link, for whatever reason he gave you. Without having seen it, I can’t say whether or not it would fly here. However, I can say that an assumption that any old link can be posted in Discourse regardless of content is incorrect.
Links here are also subject to rudeness, marketing, irrelevance and other criteria. And, third time, it’s subjective. My approach to those is the same as above.
FYI, folks, of now, Discourse only supports links to outside webpages and uploading of a wide range of image files. This is why people are finding they can post pictures but not spreadsheets.
How to get more information on Discourse moderation. You can review this part of the Nonsuch Community Forum: Guidelines - The Nonsuch Community Forum . You can post thoughts or concerns on Site Feedback - The Nonsuch Community Forum . You can send a Discourse private message to me.
– Bob
Please pick channels for responding to Rob in line with my preceding note about moderation .
Happy to have that discussion here if it’s consistent with the rules people agreed to in joining: Guidelines - The Nonsuch Community Forum .
If it’s a general discussion, please put it under the General category. If it’s feedback about this site, it’ll likely belong Site Feedback - The Nonsuch Community Forum .
-- Bob
To be clear i wasn’t trying to be rude to anyone and i wasn’t selling or representing anything.
To add context: i wasn’t even the one asking the question. Another user posted a question about the impeller on their W27, the Admins on the facebook group commented on the post to repost the question on THIS forum and then blocked anyone else from commenting on the post. there by preventing anyone from answering the question.
You can read my post regarding my frustration regarding this. But it does make me sad that the admins chose not to allow anyone to answer a post just to push them to this forum. It isn’t the first time I’ve seen this And it does piss me off that the facebook group admins seem determined NOT to answer questions and seem intent on pushing user to this forum only. That isn’t putting our best foot forward or any help to the owner asking the question and it makes me sad that admins would rather steer traffic than help a fellow Nonsuch owners.
I’d like to point people to a related topic I just posted: What the Different INA Internet Services are Intended For .
It might explain the reasoning behind the Facebook moderators trying to get discussions of impellers moved over here to Discourse. The short answer is that the INA services are each intended for different purposes. Discourse turns out to be the place designated for technical discussions. Facebook is where we encourage people to have general social interactions with friends.
I stuck more details, pointers to each of the different services, and an explanation of the reasoning behind all this in the What the Different INA Internet Services are Intended For topic.
-- Bob
I too was surprised that comments were turned off on the impeller question. In the past a comment to go to the discourse site was often included, but comments were left on.
I simply replied by submitting a new post.
Administering a Facebook group is a thankless task. Some Facebook groups I belong to the admins must approve every post. I can not imagine how much work that ends up being.