Hi, looking for a 324 mostly but considering 33s as well. If considering a sale, please let me know. Thanks, James
PS. Yes, I did post recently for a 36 but have decided to go smaller.
I have a 324 for sale it’s a 1995 model only second owner, always fresh water, very clean, on grand lake in Oklahoma can email at w.zivko@zivko.com
Thanks, William.
I’m pretty sure I saw your ad. Upfront, my only reservation would be getting it to Boston.
I’ll take a second look.
Having bought several sailboats and having had them transported, I feel that I can safely say that having a Freshwater boat will make ALL the difference in the world, it would be well worth the 3k or so to have it moved.
I have had Freshwater and Saltwater boats moved, Freshwater is so much nicer. You can always have a surveyor do a quick “drive by” for you at very little cost. That would tell you to either proceed or look elsewhere.
Tim in STL
White O’morn NS26U
Harbor Point Yacht Club
West Alton, MO
James -
I agree totally with Tim in St. Louis. A boat sitting in salt water (for years and years) is like a chicken in brine. If you’re going to eat the boat, fine. Otherwise, in a heartbeat, I’d spend a few K and open your horizons to every freshwater boat out there. This way, you’ll get a nice, clean, unpickled vessel with no nagging issues stemming from exposure to salt water or salt air. That kind of exposure affects the entire boat, by the way, not just what is sitting in the pickle barrel.
If you’ve ever gone swimming in the ocean (and it is lovely) you’ll know what I mean. Imagine that Speedo being your sails, lines, canvas, etc. Imagine swimming in the ocean and NEVER RINSING YOUR SPEEDO.
Also, this is an interesting time to be buying and selling anything, boats included. Or, for making deals to ship anything, boats included. See where I’m going ?? Add to the fact that two almost identical boats might be priced very differently for no apparent reason, you could end up paying way less (or way more) on any sales arrangement, for any boat, anywhere. Lots and lots of us Nonsucher types have bought boats half a continent away and had them shipped. Call it the cost of getting EXACTLY what you want, not what someone wants to sell you, because you are close by.
Find the best boat that you can, first and foremost. Don’t rush, especially now. Look, very seriously, at a fresh water boat. You’ll thank yourself so much, down the road. It’s the way to go.
Stay healthy.
Ernie A. in Toronto (who normally would be sailing on freshwater Lake Ontario)
Wow Ernie,
You’re wound up today. LOL. I’ve always enjoyed your writings. But all of us salt water boat folks on the Chesapeake have very comfortable Speedos ( I think). We love our pickle barrel (Chesapeake Bay). Our boats are in great shape and they are well taken care of. Anyone should be proud to purchase a Chesapeake Bay Nonsuch and we surely will hate to see it go. Salt water creates a few extra chores but we do it well. A good surveyor will determine any concerns. I would not write off a boat because it sits in salt water. A good look, a good surveyor and a lot of common sense will find a good boat.
A seasoned boater knows whether or not a boat has been taken care of or not just by looking at what they can see. A good surveyor will tell you the rest of the story.
Cheers,
Butch
Butch Garren
Nonsuch 30, #196
Whiskers II,
Solomons, MD
I tend to agree with Butch. A boat, such as one that lives in C.B., certainly doesn’t experience the kind of freezing weather that could wreak havoc when the deck is cracked and has a wet core. A poorly maintained boat is just that, no matter the geography.
Joe Valinoti
S/V iL Gatto NS30U #221
Sea Harbour YC
Oriental, NC USA
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[/details]Sandpiper has been a salt water boat all of her 35 1/2 years and the salt has done her very little harm. Most of the damage I’ve needed to deal with was caused by the Florida sun where she spent many of her formative years. She is now very happy to be in the temperate bosom of the Northwest Pacific where she neither freezes nor bakes. .... and she gets to live in the water all the time. We may have a little more maintenance because of the salt, or less because of the climate but I wouldn’t rule out a salt water boat out of hand.
Paul M
NS30U #211, Sandpiper
Cowichan Bay, B.C.
I can’t speak to the freshwater vs. salt water issue first raised by Ernie, beyond commenting that very few people look good in Speedos, regardless of what water they’ve been in. ;-}
However, FWIW, I’ve transported two different boats cross-country, one by truck from Annapolis to Los Angeles, and one by freighter from Ft. Lauderdale to Ensenada, Mexico (about 60 miles south of the California border). I found that it wasn’t difficult to arrange, and would second the argument that a good boat could easily be worth it.
Particularly with a relatively rare boat, there’s also the question of how to weigh a bird in the hand vs. waiting for one in only the local bushes.
– Bob
Ooooof … OK … OK.
Actually, I wasn’t wound up at all !! Honestly. And, y’all are absolutely correct in commenting that it’s all about the care that a boat gets, etc.
And … yes … any boat is better in the ocean down south than up north, in fresh water (and fresh ice and snow). Personally, I’d prefer a fresh water boat but what do I know about salt water (except that you can’t drink it but it’s good for your skin) ??
I guess what I really felt was important was to not exclude a particular boat just because it involved a shipping cost … and … um … it had never seen salt water (or an owner who wore only a Speedo).
This reply is dedicated to the true old SALTS in our association - may they never get pickled.
Ernie A. in Toronto