Paloma Water Heater

My Excel is vented, and I believe that is the safest way to install it. The vent also gets the moisture from combustion outside the cabin. That said, the Excel does have an oxygen depletion sensor and does not have a pilot light--so it is inherently safer than the original Palomas . Also, if you think about it, the flames on the Excel are only running when you have the hot water turned on and running. For me, that means that the Excel runs for only a few seconds at a time. Compare that to having the stove burners or the oven on. They are unvented and run for much longer times.

Still, I would suggest having a CO monitor and a smoke alarm on the boat. And making sure that fresh air can enter the cabin whenever the stove, hot water heater, or propane fired space heater is running. And testing for propane leaks in the system periodically. But this is just my approach. Everyone should do whatever makes them feel safe.

Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD

Bob,
I'd be interested in seeing your photos.
Jim

Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD

Bob’
Photos would be appreciated.
Best Regards,
Narcy

Bob

Earlier this season I removed the working Paloma water heater from my boat as part of my rethinking propane projects:
http://biankablog.blogspot.com/2014/05/rethinking-propane-removing-paloma-hot.html

I have not yet removed the deck vent (charlie noble). It got a little bent during Hurricane Sandy but, probably could be reshaped if you are interested.

Mike
BIANKA
1986 30U
http://biankablog.blogspot.com

My Excel is vented, and I believe that is the safest way to install it. The vent also gets the moisture from combustion outside the cabin. That said, the Excel does have an oxygen depletion sensor and does not have a pilot light–so it is inherently safer than the original Palomas . Also, if you think about it, the flames on the Excel are only running when you have the hot water turned on and running. For me, that means that the Excel runs for only a few seconds at a time. Compare that to having the stove burners or the oven on. They are unvented and run for much longer times.

Still, I would suggest having a CO monitor and a smoke alarm on the boat. And making sure that fresh air can enter the cabin whenever the stove, hot water heater, or propane fired space heater is running. And testing for propane leaks in the system periodically. But this is just my approach. Everyone should do whatever makes them feel safe.

Jim Cosgrove
FATE 30U #343
Galesville, MD

OK help me out here....I want to post some photos of my Excel installation as requested by several members and don't see how to do it within this thread. And I've spent 20 minutes searching for an answer on the web. What to do, what to do?

Jim: No one responded to my plea for help posting photos of my Excel installation, so I sent them directly to Narcy and Ed. If you give me your email address, I'll send them to you, as well.

Bob Hutton

Bob,
Perhaps you could send them to me and I’ll figure out a way to get them online?

Helen

Hi Bob,
My email is cosgrovej@verizon.net. I appreciate your sending the photos.

I'm not sure how you post photos if you go through the Google group web site directly. However, if you respond to a listserv message using your regular email, then I'm pretty sure you can just attach the photos to your email and they will show up.

Thanks again,
Jim

Hi Bob,
I am a new owner of a Nonsuch 30 and I am in the process of refurbishing her.
My boat had the Paloma installed at one time but when I bought her it had been removed along with the draft hood.

A dorade vent was placed on deck on top of the hole where the exhaust flue passed through for the original Paloma.
I researched the tankless water heaters and bought an Excel 1.6 GMP propane model.
Am considering having a hood made for the Excel and I would love to see the photos of your Excel installation.
If you could send them to me too I would really appreciate it.
Thanks!

Jim Krzyzewski
Toyger N30U #422
Portland OR

I too, replaced my Paloma with the Excel which went in easily and works quite well.
For those who still enjoy the Paloma I still have my original Paloma instruction manual as well as an operation and maintenance print out which were quite useful for me before the change over.
If anyone would like it just provide a mailing address and I’ll get it out to you.
Ed Strazzini
Manatee, N30U #503
Deltaville, VA

I also added a Strongtrack slide system.
I think that the track is made of Teflon, or something like it.
There are no track joints and the slides provided need no lubrication, but the sail drops like a brick when the halyard is released.

My recommendation…Get a dedicated Lewmar electric winch and Strongtrack. You WILL NOT be disappointed.

Ed Collis
ORION VII
NS30U
Toronto

Hi Bob, I would also like to see your photos, purchased excel and plan to install in spring, Thanks, Bob Ulwick, Wharf Rat, NS30C, Scituate, MA