Winches....how the heck?

…do you take them apart? I’ve got a Barient 22 with self-tailing and 2 x Barient 17’s with self tailing…I have looked online for manuals, but it seems like I need a special tool? Can anyone help me with this? I need to move the port halyard winch as part of my clutch install, and I want to service all 3.

IF I do need a special tool, can someone post a photo of it? I have discovered that the previous owner had just about everything, it may be sitting onboard in the box labelled “What’s this for?”.

Cheers,

John
NS30U#400
Tauranga, NZ

I think I have the same winches. There should be an inset round plate on the top of each winch with two holes in it. The holes should be spaced such that a deck plate key will fit in the holes. Put the deck plate key in the holes and unscrew the plate. You can then remove the self tailing fitting and lift the drum off. Be careful when lifting the drum off as internal parts sometimes stick to the inside of the drum and you can loose them overboard. Good luck.

John
I found some files online last year but no manuals. Some graphics yhat the parts.
I needed to tightrn yhe locknut and found yhe suggestion online to use a small phillips screw driver and the winch hsndle as a lever against it. Worked nicely.

Curt Danforth
Benefit 26C,
Stonington, CT

John

As I remember, there is a tool in the box that came with my boat which does this easily. I should be able to get to the boat tomorrow and look and perhaps get a picture. I have not used it for a few years but I sure can see it in my mind. It is a heavy wire thing that is like what I believe is called a spanner wrench. I’ll check it out.

(How close are you to Wanganui NZ where an old friend of mine now lives?)

Fred

Fred Rachwitz
Concerto, NS 30 U 445
Harbor Springs, MI
Northern Lake Michigan

Thank you al for the suggestions. I’m going to try a screwdriver and the winch handle tonight, as this has been posted elsewhere on the internet as a solution.

I’m going to take the winches off the boat before disassembly, as the only outfit in the world still producing parts for Barient winches (Australia) says that pawls for the Barient 22 don’t exist. If they fall overboard I’m in for a new winch!

Fred, Whanganui (they added an ‘h’ controversially a few years ago…Google it) is a couple of hours from here on the southwest coast of the North Island. It’s on the Tasman Sea, pretty wild.

John
NS30U#400
Tauranga, NZ

North Island of New Zealand

Congratulations on finally getting a gmail address. However, you should have sent your notice from the new one.
Joe
Ps - Let’s get together this week. Haven’t seen you for a while.

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Hi John:

Here’s a link to a website where you will find diagrams for many different model winches, including yours. I’ve used the docs for the winches on my boat and find the instructions pretty easy to follow. I have to admit that the first time I tried servicing my winches, without the aid of a diagram, I was stymied. I did not need any special tools, either for the single speed or the self-tailing winches on my boat.

The link: http://l-36.com/winches.php

Mike Massagli
NS 26C #61
Tenacious
lying Nantasket, MA

Ditto for the Barient 19 installed on 26’s…don’t lose the pawls or let the springs fly off. They are almost impossible to find once they have escaped.

John Newell
Mascouche 26C1 (1981)
Toronto

If I’m not mistaken, I think Lewmar prawls & springs will fit some Barient winches.

Gary
Catspaw
N30U #362
Blaine, WA

John
Sorry I was slow getting the winch key image, but here it is. I guess that it could be for deck plates also, but I have never tried. It works great on the winch caps. I don not know where to get one, it was in a toolbox which came with Concerto when I purchased it a few years ago.

Fred Rachwitz
Concerto, NS 30 U 445
Harbor Springs, Michigan
Northern Lake Michigan

Thank you for the photo. It's remarkably simple.

John
NS30U#400
Tauranga, NZ